tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post115511521176454400..comments2024-03-14T22:55:24.426+08:00Comments on Mr Wang Bakes Good Karma: Two ViewsGilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comBlogger41125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155597111074586342006-08-15T07:11:00.000+08:002006-08-15T07:11:00.000+08:00Well, firstly as a legal principle in sentencing, ...Well, firstly as a legal principle in sentencing, accused persons who plead guilty at the outset get a lighter sentence than those who are convicted after trial. That's because remorse is officially endorsed as a mitigating factor in sentencing. In practice, if an accused person pleads guilty straightaway and says, "I am so very sorry, Your Honour, that I did this terrible thing and molested the Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155576824849930422006-08-15T01:33:00.000+08:002006-08-15T01:33:00.000+08:00Mr Wang, I would agree with you in that PG + mitig...Mr Wang, <BR/>I would agree with you in that PG + mitigation pleas probably give a lawyer more money when compared to a full criminal trial.<BR/><BR/>But let me extrapolate here. Consider the situation when it's a civil trial, you know your client is a lying tortfeasor or clearly in breach, but you want to push things to trial anyway because it will give you many many more billable hours. BesidesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155530021026070882006-08-14T12:33:00.000+08:002006-08-14T12:33:00.000+08:00And Mr. Wang always cracks me up. =)And Mr. Wang always cracks me up. =)le radical galoisienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14684821442296479803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155529920969708942006-08-14T12:32:00.000+08:002006-08-14T12:32:00.000+08:00Besides, I would think that the attorney-client pr...Besides, I would think that the attorney-client privilege kind of excludes the entire "doesn't have to lie to court" thing ... because the lawyer won't be actually called to testify.le radical galoisienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14684821442296479803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155526343686512682006-08-14T11:32:00.000+08:002006-08-14T11:32:00.000+08:00Well history is filled with tyrants who in their t...Well history is filled with tyrants who in their thirst for power has sacrificed rivers of blood to achieve that end. Would you call those guys great? Not that I am comparing LKY to them, but to me, the end does not justify the means.<BR/><BR/>Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Kim Il Sung and Idi Amin were all commoners but became kings and emperors in their own right and I sure as hell would never Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155518013609902362006-08-14T09:13:00.000+08:002006-08-14T09:13:00.000+08:00Actually I would disagree on you on quite a number...Actually I would disagree on you on quite a number of points there. Here's one -<BR/><BR/>in Singapore at least, defence lawyers make money most quickly and efficiently when the client chooses to plead guilty. That's because the lawyer then goes on to do the mitigation (which is really very straightforward and not time-consuming - basically the lawyer tells the judge the sad story of the client'sGilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155492114183915182006-08-14T02:01:00.000+08:002006-08-14T02:01:00.000+08:00I really do not see what's the fuss here all about...I really do not see what's the fuss here all about whether LKY is a principled man or not.<BR/><BR/>Does it really matter whether he is principled or not?<BR/><BR/>He was not born a king, but he made himself an emperor. That in itself is a mark of greatness. Who amongst us could achieve that? Just TRY doing it.<BR/><BR/>Not only that, but LKY did leave a positive mark on his empire. You can say Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155481185331276802006-08-13T22:59:00.000+08:002006-08-13T22:59:00.000+08:00Re-posting the weblinks(too long to fit into windo...Re-posting the weblinks<BR/>(too long to fit into window)<BR/><BR/>http://www.sfdonline.org/Link%20Pages/<BR/>/Link%20Folders/Corruption/<BR/>/singcorruption.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.sfdonline.org/Link%20Pages/<BR/>Link%20Folders/Corruption/<BR/>singcorruption2.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155481045748893992006-08-13T22:57:00.000+08:002006-08-13T22:57:00.000+08:00For those who keep having the illusion that Singap...For those who keep having the illusion that Singapore leaders are clean, check this out:<BR/>http://www.sfdonline.org/Link%20Pages/Link%20Folders/Corruption/singcorruption.html<BR/>http://www.sfdonline.org/Link%20Pages/Link%20Folders/Corruption/singcorruption2.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155446083966851202006-08-13T13:14:00.000+08:002006-08-13T13:14:00.000+08:00Here in Singapore, we are no differnt from Malysia...Here in Singapore, we are no differnt from Malysia. We have a son of supreme leader who said that had he not been the son of Lky,he would be a mathematician employed by Havard University and would probably earn more than what he earns now.<BR/><BR/>There are many more of these to quote but I feel the urge not to say further.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155384806502952472006-08-12T20:13:00.000+08:002006-08-12T20:13:00.000+08:00Llok north you see a country ruled by a bloody dic...Llok north you see a country ruled by a bloody dictator for 22 years,whose children are billionaires,even he claimed that he was a poor man,and that his children would vene be richer if he were not the PM,only you believe.<BR/><BR/>Furthe north,you have a country currently ruled by a dictator wanna be,who has a fishy repuataion that even the King also a little worried about him remain in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155382518461672212006-08-12T19:35:00.000+08:002006-08-12T19:35:00.000+08:00Both men are looking at either side of a coin. One...Both men are looking at either side of a coin. One look at the human side - the caring compassion side; the other the material side - housing, infrastructures, business. Neither are wrong nor right. Like Rowen said, "both gambled with the faith of a nation". Imagine if Mr Marshall have won, would the nation be what it is today? Looking around the world today, there are very few if any nation thatWormiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13177889519248808487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155357842102944832006-08-12T12:44:00.000+08:002006-08-12T12:44:00.000+08:00Two types of persons,A pracmatic and ambitious per...Two types of persons,<BR/><BR/>A pracmatic and ambitious person who in the end had lady luck shine on him whenever a decision has been made.<BR/><BR/>The other an idealist who had a greater vision for a more lasting nation.<BR/><BR/>Both gambled with the faith of a nation. One won and is trying to hold on to his winnings. The other has not and we will not see his like again.<BR/><BR/>"The lamp Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155311779523936432006-08-11T23:56:00.000+08:002006-08-11T23:56:00.000+08:00Well ambiguous pronouns do get kind of awkward aft...Well ambiguous pronouns do get kind of awkward after a while. "(Names changed for privacy)" would have been better though.le radical galoisienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14684821442296479803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155274129961433052006-08-11T13:28:00.000+08:002006-08-11T13:28:00.000+08:00Maybe Dr also (not his real profession):)Maybe Dr also (not his real profession)<BR/><BR/>:)Whispers from the hearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00033316941375770997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155270536282567192006-08-11T12:28:00.000+08:002006-08-11T12:28:00.000+08:00this is abit of a non sequitor but i want to pt it...this is abit of a non sequitor but i want to pt it out nvrtheless...<BR/><BR/>http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/224278/1/.html<BR/><BR/>there's a line dat says "According to Dr. John Tan (not his real name)..."<BR/><BR/>if its not his bloody real name why cant you just say according to one doctor we interviewed or something like dat??<BR/><BR/>what kind of primary Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155267773605218052006-08-11T11:42:00.000+08:002006-08-11T11:42:00.000+08:00"Let it be that a few guilty men get away but not ..."Let it be that a few guilty men get away but not a single innocent man be hanged"<BR/>How sure can we be that not a single innocent men has been hanged. As Marshall said if we adopt a utilitarian approach of deterrance , why is the number being hanged going up up up just like everything else in Singapore. Principle my ass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155264330841086032006-08-11T10:45:00.000+08:002006-08-11T10:45:00.000+08:00If an authorised biography by LKY, a man not given...If an authorised biography by LKY, a man not given to much honest self-appraisal already exposes some of his less serious faults, just think what a no holds barred one would reveal. Ladies and gentlemen, what we are seeing is just just the tip of the iceberg or the edge of the abyss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155261121528244802006-08-11T09:52:00.000+08:002006-08-11T09:52:00.000+08:00LKY's memoirs are a record of some of his faults. ...LKY's memoirs are a record of some of his faults. <BR/><BR/>Even greatest of all man has faults. He is not the greatest definitely, but I would say he has managed a few good volumes of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155259003135255792006-08-11T09:16:00.000+08:002006-08-11T09:16:00.000+08:00I am sorry but perhaps you would like to tell me j...I am sorry but perhaps you would like to tell me just what does LKY stands for? You call him a man of principle- but what principle may I ask.<BR/><BR/>Afterall all your theories and explanations, I am still nowhere closer to understanding what his principles are than I was, from the beginning.<BR/><BR/>Maybe you and I has got different ideas about principles. To me, men of principle are people Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155232610141333872006-08-11T01:56:00.000+08:002006-08-11T01:56:00.000+08:00Well the man is a megalomaniac, boastful, with an ...Well the man is a megalomaniac, boastful, with an arrogance that knows no bound. The fact is he himself wasn't a very good lawyer to begin with, which is probably why he said he found the profession "unfulfilling" (ha-ha). At most he was a 66.6% grade lawyer, not too bad but certainly far from the best out there e.g. David Marshall, Francis Seow and JBJ. Hence the underlying contempt for those Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155225679847189772006-08-11T00:01:00.000+08:002006-08-11T00:01:00.000+08:00anonymous:I understand where you're coming from. B...anonymous:<BR/><BR/>I understand where you're coming from. But let me try to explain my point of view. The human mind tends to be more complex than it first appears. <BR/><BR/>People like LKY define the world always from principles, then downwards. In this, they cannot stand a world contrary to their principles. <BR/><BR/>When they discover inconsistencies, they may do one of three things. They Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155220342769276402006-08-10T22:32:00.000+08:002006-08-10T22:32:00.000+08:00LKY and principles? Are you kidding me? Since when...LKY and principles? Are you kidding me? Since when may I ask has the man demonstrated any sort moral principles.<BR/><BR/>This is the man who justifies sky high salaries by saying its a deterrent against corruption.<BR/><BR/>This is a man who once said: "If you believe in democracy, you must believe in it unconditionally. If you believe that men should be free, then, they should have the right Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155216854995827462006-08-10T21:34:00.000+08:002006-08-10T21:34:00.000+08:00LKY should just keep his big mouth shut. Nobody ca...LKY should just keep his big mouth shut. Nobody cares about what he says now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1155200151645338302006-08-10T16:55:00.000+08:002006-08-10T16:55:00.000+08:008k in the early days may just be 60k now8k in the early days may just be 60k nowmoomoomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02911270867099927784noreply@blogger.com