tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post115361793586388895..comments2024-03-14T22:55:24.426+08:00Comments on Mr Wang Bakes Good Karma: The MSM Grows NervousGilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1157080990616254232006-09-01T11:23:00.000+08:002006-09-01T11:23:00.000+08:00All I can comment is that there is a very good rea...All I can comment is that there is a very good reason why our MSM are ranked 140th in the world,<BR/><BR/>And no, how the west had misunderstood freedom in the uniquely unique little red dot sound more like a good excuse rather than a good reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1154005442435966382006-07-27T21:04:00.000+08:002006-07-27T21:04:00.000+08:00hermes,I think you missed out a fair bit being out...hermes,<BR/><BR/>I think you missed out a fair bit being out of the country the last six year. Do you think it's fair to make rather comments based on your six year old impression?<BR/><BR/>You can still without a doubt, keep an eye on the local issues while overseas. However, you would certainly missed out on the local sentiment because you are not the man on the ground for any consistent periodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153906601308360452006-07-26T17:36:00.000+08:002006-07-26T17:36:00.000+08:00Did something happen on Pulau Ubin? I wasn't aware...Did something happen on Pulau Ubin? I wasn't aware - I must have missed that. As for my items:<BR/><BR/>"MSM; IPS; MICA; Lee Boon Yang; Bhavani; Dr Vivian; the police officers and prosecutors who took action against the seditious bloggers; MDA and their political website rules; Balaji Sadasivan; Ministry of Education; Philip Yeo of A*STAR; etc"<BR/><BR/>I wasn't thinking of any City Hall protest Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153901946762645382006-07-26T16:19:00.000+08:002006-07-26T16:19:00.000+08:00I liked the blogosphere because I can say all I wa...I liked the blogosphere because I can say all I want. Every opinion counts, whether well-researched or otherwise. Nobody holds the authority on what is well-researched. In fact, nobody can hold any authority on anything nowadays. Everything is manipulated for a reason.<BR/><BR/>The free-for-all atmosphere promotes reader maturity to seive out the good from the bad. While I read blogs like The Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153896802196471982006-07-26T14:53:00.000+08:002006-07-26T14:53:00.000+08:00Wow, I got Mr Wang all riled up. Okay, dude, sorry...Wow, I got Mr Wang all riled up. Okay, dude, sorry and chill.<BR/><BR/>Since we are doing the quotes game,<BR/><BR/>"Even worse for MSM, MICA has announced that while local MSM must obey the Bhavani commandments, bloggers need not. So effectively, the "alternative media" has advantages in the exact areas where local MSM is crippled."<BR/><BR/>"Far safer, and far more intelligent, to turn to "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153888920160183272006-07-26T12:42:00.000+08:002006-07-26T12:42:00.000+08:00Actually, the part about Hermes' post that I'm int...Actually, the part about Hermes' post that I'm interested in is where he says that apart from blogs, there are other "alternative media" available (in Singapore?). I'd love to know what they are and check them out.<BR/><BR/>I hope he's not just referring to online foreign newspapers, Reuters etc (who doesn't know that they exist). Yes, good stuff, but lots of local things that matter to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153887605850431052006-07-26T12:20:00.000+08:002006-07-26T12:20:00.000+08:00Actually, the more I read your comment, the less I...Actually, the more I read your comment, the less I see how it's connected to anything I wrote. I'm really interested to know what on earth you're thinking about (no sarcasm intended). What is your point here?:<BR/><BR/>"As to the police or minister reacting that way in the City Hall 'protest', let's see, we deploy hundreds (or thousands) of trained army personnel to track down a small group of Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153886790700207922006-07-26T12:06:00.000+08:002006-07-26T12:06:00.000+08:00Maybe just a third thought:where in the world did ...Maybe just a third thought:<BR/><BR/>where in the world did you get the idea that I am saying that blogs are all "informed views"?Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153886273055038182006-07-26T11:57:00.000+08:002006-07-26T11:57:00.000+08:00I think you are not really interested in discussin...I think you are not really interested in discussing and are veering into personal attacks and insults. So I will leave you with just two thoughts:<BR/><BR/>1. No one can know better than the Straits Times how many readers the Straits Times has. So if you do not trust the Straits Times to give you the right numbers on that, then contrary to what you suggest, there is no point going to another Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153884277016593812006-07-26T11:24:00.000+08:002006-07-26T11:24:00.000+08:00For a lawyer, I'm actually quite surprised you mis...For a lawyer, I'm actually quite surprised you missed the points (and sarcasm) in the flame, quite a bit in fact. But great work on twisting words or putting words into my mouth. That's your job.<BR/><BR/>I'm not saying all bloggers are stupid. I'm saying bloggers are a mix of people - some intelligent and some well, retarded. My point is blogging is just ONE of the many alternative media. It is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153874231457079132006-07-26T08:37:00.000+08:002006-07-26T08:37:00.000+08:00"Riemann Soong, i think you give the journalists t..."Riemann Soong, i think you give the journalists too much credit, and risk burdening yourself with unnecessary analaysis and counter-analysis of their poor and biased writings."<BR/><BR/>I completely agree.<BR/><BR/>Whenwe have an elite,high flyer,the best that Spore can find,Ms Low who was seem to be very sincre in my eyes,believed that if Spore wree to elect more than 2 AP members into Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153841906940184062006-07-25T23:38:00.000+08:002006-07-25T23:38:00.000+08:00MSM; IPS; MICA; Lee Boon Yang; Bhavani; Dr Vivian;...MSM; IPS; MICA; Lee Boon Yang; Bhavani; Dr Vivian; the police officers and prosecutors who took action against the seditious bloggers; MDA and their political website rules; Balaji Sadasivan; Ministry of Education; Philip Yeo of A*STAR; etc<BR/><BR/>They may yet be intelligent individuals, but they are also very out of touch and hampered by the rigid system and the control freaks they all serve. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153831192917710622006-07-25T20:39:00.000+08:002006-07-25T20:39:00.000+08:00If Hermes vs Mr Wang were a boxing match, I say Mr...If Hermes vs Mr Wang were a boxing match, I say Mr Wang has just KO'd Hermes, no sweat, haha.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153830060765229432006-07-25T20:21:00.000+08:002006-07-25T20:21:00.000+08:00By the way, about the 35% figure, well, that was a...By the way, about the 35% figure, well, that was a 2004 article by Little Speck. He had written:<BR/><BR/><B>"Selling some 390,000 copies to a population of 4.25m people gives the Straits Times a penetration rate of only 35 per cent."</B><BR/><BR/>If you would like more up-to-date figures, you can visit the Straits Times' own website:<BR/><BR/>http://straitstimes.asiaone.com/portal/site/STI/Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153828559539896822006-07-25T19:55:00.000+08:002006-07-25T19:55:00.000+08:00That wasn't much of a flame, really. Some valid po...That wasn't much of a flame, really. Some valid points, but here's my two cents' worth.<BR/><BR/>Firstly, as I think I've said before, there are people who read MSM and not alternative media; people who read alternative media but not MSM; people who read both; and people who read neither. <BR/><BR/>When MSM behaves in a way that causes readers to lose trust, they may simply be inclined to stop Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153825603067331082006-07-25T19:06:00.000+08:002006-07-25T19:06:00.000+08:00This is an intended flame. Be warned.No offense, y...This is an intended flame. Be warned.<BR/><BR/>No offense, you do realize, LittleSpeck never cited WHERE or HOW it came up with the 35% figure? Cite a relevant source and I maybe inclined to believe.<BR/><BR/>It says readership is drawn towards Internet, digital entertainment etc, now really, drawn to Internet blogging doesn't mean they read the smarty-pants blog by yours truly. Remember Xiaxue Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153807859168768662006-07-25T14:10:00.000+08:002006-07-25T14:10:00.000+08:00Gosh political bloggers shall now be equated with ...Gosh political bloggers shall now be equated with rapists - kanna caned for being bitchy!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153806513726170502006-07-25T13:48:00.000+08:002006-07-25T13:48:00.000+08:00You missed out of the caning. A few strokes of the...You missed out of the caning. <BR/><BR/>A few strokes of the ratan will carry the message louder than just free "hotel" room in changi.werthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15626096873427087053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153800627490298702006-07-25T12:10:00.000+08:002006-07-25T12:10:00.000+08:00SINGAPORE BLOGGERS ACT (Chapter No.143 - Part II)A...SINGAPORE BLOGGERS ACT (Chapter No.143 - Part II)<BR/><BR/><BR/>An Act to provide for the internal security of Singapore, preventive detention, the prevention of subversion, the prevention of any likelihood of undermining the Government’s standing with the electorate, the prevention of all constructive criticisms not supported by constructive solutions or alternatives even though it falls Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153800442371695462006-07-25T12:07:00.000+08:002006-07-25T12:07:00.000+08:00"Even worse for MSM, MICA has announced that while..."Even worse for MSM, MICA has announced that while local MSM must obey the Bhavani commandments, bloggers need not."<BR/><BR/>Mr Wang, hush hush, if you have spotted a loop hole, please do not highlight it.<BR/><BR/>Singapore is well known for its efficiency and before you know it, a new legislation shall be passed as follows:<BR/><BR/>Titled:<BR/>Singapore Bloggers Act (Chapter <BR/>No. 143 - Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153796021204836912006-07-25T10:53:00.000+08:002006-07-25T10:53:00.000+08:00Your post is simply ingenius!Your post is simply ingenius!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153795024010959002006-07-25T10:37:00.000+08:002006-07-25T10:37:00.000+08:00Anyway, regarding the ST cartoon on 24 July 2006, ...Anyway, regarding the ST cartoon on 24 July 2006, I think MICA, if they are reading this, should rein the semi Government editorial board in. It does not help relations with our Muslim brothers at home and in the neighbours. I am a Chinese, and I feel really really uncomfortable reading it - unless it prints an equally disgusting one deriding Israel to 'balance' the picture :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153794278661961922006-07-25T10:24:00.000+08:002006-07-25T10:24:00.000+08:00Riemann Soong, i think you give the journalists to...Riemann Soong, i think you give the journalists too much credit, and risk burdening yourself with unnecessary analaysis and counter-analysis of their poor and biased writings. They do not, and it is not their intention, to produce subtle or layered articles if that is what you mean. Sometimes what one sees is what one gets. Reading too much into things can get oneself side-tracked and playing in Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153790892615719522006-07-25T09:28:00.000+08:002006-07-25T09:28:00.000+08:00Hi Mr Wang, interesting discussion :] The book Man...Hi Mr Wang, interesting discussion :] <BR/><BR/>The book <I>Manufacturing Consent</I>, by Herman & Chomsky, describes the interesting dynamics that account for the biases in the mainstream media in many countries. <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_model" REL="nofollow">Link</A>Heavenly Swordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05144267334516849506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153769043401835852006-07-25T03:24:00.000+08:002006-07-25T03:24:00.000+08:00Some people fail to recognise the subliminal messa...Some people fail to recognise the subliminal messaging. I think the journalists are doing quite a good job in their position - now if they only consciously became organised they could perhaps throw off the yoke. <BR/><BR/>For one, the establishment is not homogeneous, the government is not homogenous (this is why it's a bad idea to refer to it with a <A HREF="http://parlerment.blogspot.com/2006/le radical galoisienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14684821442296479803noreply@blogger.com