tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post115318042193668610..comments2024-03-14T22:55:24.426+08:00Comments on Mr Wang Bakes Good Karma: On Deterrent SentencesGilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153295384934423712006-07-19T15:49:00.000+08:002006-07-19T15:49:00.000+08:00"If you do think Sg is similar and thus could impo..."If you do think Sg is similar and thus could impose such measures, then perhaps consider Kant's categorical imperatives (2nd formulation esp)."<BR/><BR/>My dear Ivan, don't get too excited and caught up with the technicalities of the law and have some humour .... sigh. <BR/><BR/>I think you did not understand the point that Mappleice was making in the para below:<BR/><BR/>"If we want to make Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153284618414656562006-07-19T12:50:00.000+08:002006-07-19T12:50:00.000+08:00ivan,The 'backlash' against the Taleban government...ivan,<BR/><BR/>The 'backlash' against the Taleban government in Afghanistan was not a result of their harsh laws.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153280613039400742006-07-19T11:43:00.000+08:002006-07-19T11:43:00.000+08:00Chief Justice Chan Sek Keong taking office in Apri...Chief Justice Chan Sek Keong taking office in April was the best news to be heard for quite a while. Finally, Singapore can look forward to something worthy of First World status - a better, fairer system of justice that does not need to correlate with the kind of breakfast the judge had on any on day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153263484677943812006-07-19T06:58:00.000+08:002006-07-19T06:58:00.000+08:00That is what juries are for. Conveniently, the PAP...That is what juries are for. <BR/><BR/>Conveniently, the PAP banned juries following independence. <BR/><BR/>It's almost like Bolshevik power consolidation.le radical galoisienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14684821442296479803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153262398840516812006-07-19T06:39:00.000+08:002006-07-19T06:39:00.000+08:00My english not powerful, but i learn something fro...My english not powerful, but i learn something from this story...may not be your lesson learn, but mine.<BR/><BR/>CJ, DJ, DPP, AG, SG..... all but human, not perfect, at the end still make mistakes. Imagine if the poor fellow did not appeal or somehow the "next" button is pressed, the poor fellow will go to jail for 33 months. <BR/><BR/>In this case is jail, imagine if the offence is death Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153242837527725812006-07-19T01:13:00.000+08:002006-07-19T01:13:00.000+08:00The case gained added notice when it became the fi...<I>The case gained added notice when it became the first criminal appeal from the district court since Chief Justice Chan Sek Keong took office in April. <B>But it was inappropriate for CJ Chan to hear the appeal because he was the Attorney-General at the time the case was prosecuted in the district court.</B></I><BR/><BR/>Wow, this would never have happened under the ex-CJ. I'm thinking of the AAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08603593953401426842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153236975481096882006-07-18T23:36:00.000+08:002006-07-18T23:36:00.000+08:00If I'm caught littering and they put me in jail fo...If I'm caught littering and they put me in jail for 3 days... it's enough to deter me from touching paper for the rest of my life.moomoomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02911270867099927784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153235021091067242006-07-18T23:03:00.000+08:002006-07-18T23:03:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.moomoomanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02911270867099927784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153216631323985022006-07-18T17:57:00.000+08:002006-07-18T17:57:00.000+08:00my initial grasp of the report was as as proclaime...my initial grasp of the report was as as proclaimed in the heading. but ST have always had very misleading headlines on local news.Heretic_Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05035832774090809437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153216357050161932006-07-18T17:52:00.000+08:002006-07-18T17:52:00.000+08:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Heretic_Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05035832774090809437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153212345213728422006-07-18T16:45:00.000+08:002006-07-18T16:45:00.000+08:00It is not about specific deterrence or general det...It is not about specific deterrence or general deterrence. It is really all about justification for a sentence made.<BR/><BR/>Courts cannot act arbitrarily. If a criminal has to be punished, it must be based on the right reasons in accordance with the law.<BR/><BR/>The problem is in justifying the sentence correctly.<BR/><BR/>General deterrence and specific deterrence is just a means towards Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153211427920984992006-07-18T16:30:00.000+08:002006-07-18T16:30:00.000+08:00Jurisprudence was not one of the subjects Porcoros...Jurisprudence was not one of the subjects Porcorosso took as part of his degree but his take on this is that it was probably not a suitable case for a deterrent sentence at all - if the defendent is unlikely to offend again, then a specific deterrent is useless and if the public has no need to be warned off this kind of offence, then there is no need for a general deterrent either. My, was the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153207740377071772006-07-18T15:29:00.000+08:002006-07-18T15:29:00.000+08:00General deterrence at least from my perspective is...General deterrence at least from my perspective is a nonsense, because you can never prove that it works. Partly because in my view the criminal doesn't consider the consequences of his/her actions, either because it's carried out at the spur of the moment or because there so spaced out they can't make a rational choice or because the're plain stupid.<BR/><BR/>Specific deterrence is another Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00344647044388132016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153204973954332102006-07-18T14:42:00.000+08:002006-07-18T14:42:00.000+08:00yr blog is cute! I am so in love with u. Can we me...yr blog is cute! I am so in love with u. Can we meet for coffee?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153204904219063492006-07-18T14:41:00.000+08:002006-07-18T14:41:00.000+08:00aiyoh what happened in the promotion process and t...aiyoh what happened in the promotion process and the HR guidelines on promotion?<BR/><BR/>as screwed up as the newspaper report?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153204771268185142006-07-18T14:39:00.000+08:002006-07-18T14:39:00.000+08:00I know him actually. He was a DPP when I was a DPP...I know him actually. He was a DPP when I was a DPP. Now he is a judge and I have moved into the investment banking industry.Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153204115386945882006-07-18T14:28:00.000+08:002006-07-18T14:28:00.000+08:00Mr Wang u better watch your tongue. If Roy Neighb...Mr Wang u better watch your tongue. If Roy Neighbour knows who you are, he may use general deterrence and specific deterrence on you plus a life sentence which is "subjectively" the most appropriate. :PPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1153203888458944982006-07-18T14:24:00.000+08:002006-07-18T14:24:00.000+08:00aiyah Mr Wang not everyone is as clever as you mah...aiyah Mr Wang not everyone is as clever as you mah.<BR/><BR/>Straits Times reporter not lawyer. Roy Neighbour lawyer trained but cannot fine the right sentence. High Court judge got everything right but cannot get the reporter to report correctly.<BR/><BR/>Sigh such is the dilemma of living here.<BR/><BR/>It is also the general culture and attitudes of Singaporean mentality esp in civil service -Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com