tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post115104785046014642..comments2024-03-14T22:55:24.426+08:00Comments on Mr Wang Bakes Good Karma: Party Political FilmsGilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151359922882960022006-06-27T06:12:00.000+08:002006-06-27T06:12:00.000+08:00They're afraid after showing a softer side of Chee...They're afraid after showing a softer side of Chee, people might be surprised that a lunatic like him actually has a wife and kids, and might want to find out more about him.. That wouldn't do cuz Opposing politicans aren't encouraged to breed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151219688350074342006-06-25T15:14:00.000+08:002006-06-25T15:14:00.000+08:00Mr Wang : Oh, my comment was just a punchline, jus...Mr Wang : Oh, my comment was just a punchline, just like the photo. After all, the Law's obsolete! ;)<BR/><BR/>On a serious note though, any leader would want to be seen as a 'family man', because it appeals to the people being as caring and "down to Earth". In fact, it is not difficult to see that anything that makes the oppsition appealing is often declared as "dangerous".En and Houhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723274346917371190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151205136640220812006-06-25T11:12:00.000+08:002006-06-25T11:12:00.000+08:00I guess TTH's fear is that after all the effort pu...I guess TTH's fear is that after all the effort put in by the mainstream media to demonise Chee as some sort of raving lunatic, the public should realise what a sham it all is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151201823321166482006-06-25T10:17:00.000+08:002006-06-25T10:17:00.000+08:00Haha, Hou, there is one difference. I didn't use H...Haha, Hou, there is one difference. I didn't use Hitler as a negative example - therefore Godwin's law wouldn't apply. In fact I used Hitler to illustrate that just about everyone has a softer side, and therefore there isn't anything inherently untrue or deceptive happening when Singapore Rebel shows Chee Soon Juan as having a softer side.<BR/><BR/>That is why I was struck by TTH saying that Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151197155895005472006-06-25T08:59:00.000+08:002006-06-25T08:59:00.000+08:00Why do I feel that Singaporeans believe that opini...Why do I feel that Singaporeans believe that opinions being "swayed" is bad? <BR/><BR/>Why the negative connotation? <BR/><BR/>Because when opinions change, it means the current truth is being challenged? and rejected? The truth is no longer seen as valid. <BR/><BR/>That's the fear. That the Singaporeans begin to seek the real truth??? not that which is fabricated for us, like the Matrix.<BR/><BRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151177696361962592006-06-25T03:34:00.000+08:002006-06-25T03:34:00.000+08:00Interestingly, if this was published in the era of...Interestingly, if this was published in the era of Usenet, Mr Wang would have 'lost' through the invokation of <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law" REL="nofollow">Godwin's Law!</A> ;)<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/>HouEn and Houhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14723274346917371190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151170659249705102006-06-25T01:37:00.000+08:002006-06-25T01:37:00.000+08:00haha.... what a apt picture at the end!Singaporean...haha.... what a apt picture at the end!<BR/><BR/>Singaporeans should ask themselves a couple of questions before blindly agreeing/accepting the PAP govt stance on party political films. what is the definition of party political films? Who are the people defining it? Why do they define it in such a way?<BR/><BR/>Honestly, if they think party political films should not be allowed then perhaps they Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04762951638834215770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151168618378162662006-06-25T01:03:00.000+08:002006-06-25T01:03:00.000+08:00"I'd say just let it pass and respect the intellec..."I'd say just let it pass and respect the intellect of the population. Show us the evils and engaged in healthy dialogue about it, rather than to treat us like kids and decide for us like we don't know how to "use our brain". "<BR/><BR/>I don't think the issue is whether the governement thinks that the population is mature enough to handle manipulative media, the issue is that the government Mezzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12832423014086477073noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151160172342138322006-06-24T22:42:00.000+08:002006-06-24T22:42:00.000+08:00I'd read that as video is to be feared, in its pow...I'd read that as video is to be feared, in its power to sway opinions.<BR/><BR/>In CSJ's case, the prevailing view is of a belligerent nutcase, so the video clip showing the tender moments with his children is powerful in changing people's minds about him.<BR/><BR/>I think that was the point TTH was trying to make, and not how the softer images of CSJ are "frightening". <BR/><BR/>I've seen the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151146851492512822006-06-24T19:00:00.000+08:002006-06-24T19:00:00.000+08:00Really? Here, read again."Video is to be FEARED," ...Really? Here, read again.<BR/><BR/><B>"Video is to be FEARED,"</B> he said .... Mr Tan cited Singapore Rebel ... as a <B>CASE IN POINT.</B> ... film chronicles Dr Chee's arrest in 2002 .... <B>MORE SIGNIFICANTLY, </B>, it contains <B>"SOFTER" IMAGES</B> of the politician at home, interacting with his wife and children.Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151144516199601702006-06-24T18:21:00.000+08:002006-06-24T18:21:00.000+08:00I read Mr Wang's blog entry twice, and realised th...I read Mr Wang's blog entry twice, and realised that Tan Tarn How didn't use the word "frightening" or "scary" to describe Singapore Rebel.<BR/><BR/>That was actually Mr Wang's own words. What TTH was pointing out is the power of video in swaying opinions. <BR/><BR/>It is that power which is scary, not that fact that CSJ is seen as having a softer side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151125439081370112006-06-24T13:03:00.000+08:002006-06-24T13:03:00.000+08:00talking about politicians holding and kissing babi...talking about politicians holding and kissing babies to show a softer touch ... i remember the recent election has continous broadcast of lhl carrying a baby boy with white diaper. so the governing party is in fact capitalising on pr ... or is the mass media doing for them?<BR/><BR/>whatever the reasons that gave rise to the numerous legal restrictions and censorships, that was many years ago andAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151114381959944162006-06-24T09:59:00.000+08:002006-06-24T09:59:00.000+08:00"Research fellow" Tan Tarn How's comments on how t..."Research fellow" Tan Tarn How's comments on how the "Singapore Rebel" video is to be feared because it runs counter to the image painted by the sycophant media, confirms suspicions that he is another Round Table type trying to get the attention of the MIW to solicit an invite to tea at the Istana. Ditto the IPS's survey of the May elections, drawing ammunition to justify the "managment" of the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151071818985379742006-06-23T22:10:00.000+08:002006-06-23T22:10:00.000+08:00I still think the old phrase is the best" Let The ...I still think the old phrase is the best<BR/><BR/>" Let The Voters Decide "<BR/><BR/>I mean I am sure if Singaporeans can differentiate genuity of Hollywood movies, they can differentiate the genuity of flicks like "Singapore Rebel"<BR/><BR/><BR/>I propose more liberalisation and no control at all for making political films unless it is politcial porn movies...lol.......<BR/><BR/>How violent can Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151070057911418522006-06-23T21:40:00.000+08:002006-06-23T21:40:00.000+08:00I think that while the government can prevent scre...I think that while the government can prevent screening of the film through broadcast TV and movie theaters, as well as through it's sale via VHS, VCD, DVD (not considering pirated sources which in itself can be disruptive), videos are nowadays easier to disseminate through personally-controlled media.<BR/><BR/>I'm referring to video sharing services like YouTube and Google Video having a Kevinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09093603817500103421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151069137376966642006-06-23T21:25:00.000+08:002006-06-23T21:25:00.000+08:00Mediacorpse and SPH are already making party-polit...Mediacorpse and SPH are already making party-political films and articles day in day out for the past 40 years. Editing images to suit PAP's agenda; writing, paraphrasing and omitting facts to appease their political masters. Mr Tan, do tell us something we don't know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151066651881163572006-06-23T20:44:00.000+08:002006-06-23T20:44:00.000+08:00ANYTHING that can shift voter's sentiments towards...ANYTHING that can shift voter's sentiments towards the opposition parties is considered dangerous by our "We-know-what's-best-for-you-so-you<BR/>-better-shutup-and-listen-to-LEE-we<BR/>-mean-WE" government.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151062535268757092006-06-23T19:35:00.000+08:002006-06-23T19:35:00.000+08:00Mediacock is into making films and shows. That's w...Mediacock is into making films and shows. That's why those footages of politicians kissing babies and shaking hands are their forte ... it's all play-acting!<BR/><BR/>It's the truth they can't handle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151061200521937272006-06-23T19:13:00.000+08:002006-06-23T19:13:00.000+08:00I love Steve Pavlina's blog :)I love Steve Pavlina's blog :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151061134444348332006-06-23T19:12:00.000+08:002006-06-23T19:12:00.000+08:00Banning of video will do them no good. It will onl...Banning of video will do them no good. It will only lead to more people wanting to know more about the alternatives.<BR/><BR/>Btw, TCS is now called MediaCorp. Or MediaCock. :PAbaohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06316440811389250605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151057660754203782006-06-23T18:14:00.000+08:002006-06-23T18:14:00.000+08:00God forbid the first world Government has insecuri...God forbid the first world Government has insecurity issues!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151056085079577572006-06-23T17:48:00.000+08:002006-06-23T17:48:00.000+08:00By the way, Alvin, I found Steve Pavlina's blog th...By the way, Alvin, I found Steve Pavlina's blog through yours - indeed a fascinating read.Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1151055088548429072006-06-23T17:31:00.000+08:002006-06-23T17:31:00.000+08:00"The Government's next step should be to deal with..."The Government's next step should be to deal with that which makes political films, including Singapore Rebel, so 'terrifying': the fact that they are, as products of selective editing and audiovisual design, inherently manipulative.<BR/><BR/>To achieve this, the public must be educated about - not shielded from - the processes of manipulation. They must understand how screen language operates Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com