tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post114240726252521077..comments2024-03-14T22:55:24.426+08:00Comments on Mr Wang Bakes Good Karma: Politics and PotshotsGilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142658701965100572006-03-18T13:11:00.000+08:002006-03-18T13:11:00.000+08:00To the latest Anonymous:The funny thing is, you ma...To the latest Anonymous:<BR/><BR/>The funny thing is, you may think that you're acting a bit strange, but you're not. PM Lee himself, at the time he became PM, advocated the need for Singapore to become a more open society - he said that this was one of the key things he wanted to establish for Singapore, as PM.<BR/><BR/>Mr Wang supports PM Lee! Henceforth I shall devote my blog to helping PM LeeGilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142658113773935912006-03-18T13:01:00.000+08:002006-03-18T13:01:00.000+08:00My dollar's worth:Woah. Is there a need to assume ...My dollar's worth:<BR/><BR/>Woah. Is there a need to assume that this is the "end-result of our youths". PremierJC or not (can we just call a spade a spade?), it's still a school, where students are steeped in the process of learning. A school is where kids learn. Life is a long learning journey. I'm not sure that we're "end-results of [their] political apathy and [their] detachment from the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142648757864601092006-03-18T10:25:00.000+08:002006-03-18T10:25:00.000+08:00I can forgive Blank Doll for having such great res...I can forgive Blank Doll for having such great respect for the early PAP leaders. There *were* some pretty respectable characters in their midst. However, they are mostly dead or retired now.<BR/><BR/>And I don't necessarily subscribe to the idea of "glory by association". Just because the PAP had some awesome characters in the past doesn't convince me that the average PAP MP today is similarly Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142620172829900132006-03-18T02:29:00.000+08:002006-03-18T02:29:00.000+08:00I'll put another comment here about bland doll. He...I'll put another comment here about bland doll. He actually believes the PAP are going to be voted out of power in the next election. That alone is grounds for institutionalisation.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's not good for "intellectuals" to be knee jerk critical of the government for its sake, but criticism is as good a starting point away from political apathy as any. <BR/><BR/>Yeah our forefathers get7-8https://www.blogger.com/profile/13772775395041477772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142619725062930002006-03-18T02:22:00.000+08:002006-03-18T02:22:00.000+08:00I’ve always believed that a person’s political aff...I’ve always believed that a person’s political affiliation is a rather poor explanation of his personality. This Tan Sai Siong belongs to that generation of people who sat by and meekly surrendered our civil liberties, who ran towards their golden straitjackets. Now I’m not going to criticise that, people have their reasons and their concerns. <BR/><BR/>But when we start to actually talk about 7-8https://www.blogger.com/profile/13772775395041477772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142612465456710072006-03-18T00:21:00.000+08:002006-03-18T00:21:00.000+08:00bland droll:you stopped making sense a long time a...bland droll:<BR/><BR/>you stopped making sense a long time ago.<BR/><BR/>"The Indochinese example was used to illustrate the fact that we really shouldn't overemphasize the role of external influences in the decolonization process just as we shouldn't overemphasize the role of our founding fathers."<BR/><BR/>This is just plain dumb. How can you "illustrate the fact" by citing an example that is Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142606511462581672006-03-17T22:41:00.000+08:002006-03-17T22:41:00.000+08:00Our young padawan, David Marshall you say...hmm wh...Our young padawan, David Marshall you say...hmm what a strange choice, sine he is one of the key founders of Workers Party...are you sure you are admiring the correct person? <BR/><BR/>So are you to say that it should be the default that young people like you should be not anti-PAP/Government? Or rather that it should be the default that no one criticise the Party in power? <BR/><BR/>People Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142599213898333862006-03-17T20:40:00.000+08:002006-03-17T20:40:00.000+08:00Blank Doll is officially running off to France (no...Blank Doll is officially running off to France (note: AFTER his NS) in a misguided attempt to join the fashion world and so chase his own dreams. It's either that or join, you guess it, youngPAP.<BR/><BR/>Mr. Wang, are you seriously suggesting that it is absolutely fine to kick a party out of power just for the sake of kicking it out of power without even assessing its merits? Is that not Blank Dollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04050686431488573237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142596641255698762006-03-17T19:57:00.000+08:002006-03-17T19:57:00.000+08:00aiyoh, blank doll:It doesn't help your case if you...aiyoh, blank doll:<BR/><BR/>It doesn't help your case if you keep insisting on grabbing historical examples from irrelevant contexts.<BR/><BR/>Let me spell things out for you:<BR/><BR/>We're discussing Singapore's independence from its former colonial masters, who in this case happen to be the British.<BR/><BR/>Therefore, what is relevant is British colonial rule in Singapore and anything that Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142589143303649752006-03-17T17:52:00.000+08:002006-03-17T17:52:00.000+08:00Anyway, like our dear Minister Mentor once said, p...Anyway, like our dear Minister Mentor once said, people who are not going to have any stake in this country, their views and opinions carries no weight. <BR/><BR/>So even if our young Padawan aka Blank Doll feels that young Singaporeans are misguided to think of things like political choice, his/her words carries no weight since he's running off to France.Such people, tsk tsk, devious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142581809746248602006-03-17T15:50:00.000+08:002006-03-17T15:50:00.000+08:00After all, would be declaim the Bush regime as dyn...<I> After all, would be declaim the Bush regime as dynastic and so bad? Well, the opposition seems to think that the PAP administration is bad because it is 'dynastic', just read one of those sandwich boards they routinely use. </I><BR/><BR/>I think Blank Doll must have missed quite a few of the negative charges that were levelled against Dubya. The first is the dynastic charge. The second (Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404874584727768253noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142572287544601432006-03-17T13:11:00.000+08:002006-03-17T13:11:00.000+08:00I am surprised that youths cannot be anti-PAP.Is t...I am surprised that youths cannot be anti-PAP.<BR/><BR/>Is there anything inherently wrong in that?<BR/><BR/>Oh, I forgot. Things can only flow ONE WAY, Singaporeans can only be anti-opposition; any anti-PAP youths are blatantly misguided folks who don't know what they want, and not people who exercise their choice of alignment. *rolls eyes*.Pkchukisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05476303040602755313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142566863503793212006-03-17T11:41:00.000+08:002006-03-17T11:41:00.000+08:00Hey, what if the article was Ms Tan's way of hinti...Hey, what if the article was Ms Tan's way of hinting at her candidacy for the coming election?angry dochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03132410467147982699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142558900169407902006-03-17T09:28:00.000+08:002006-03-17T09:28:00.000+08:00What? You're intending to move to France after NS....What? You're intending to move to France after NS. Bah. According to our beloved Goh Chok Tong, you must therefore be a quitter and therefore not worthy of my further notice.<BR/><BR/>~~~~~<BR/><BR/>No lah. Unlike SM Goh, Mr Wang is not so judgmental and believes that there must be good reasons why you want to leave Singapore. Good luck.<BR/><BR/>~~~~~<BR/><BR/>Personally, for me, the history of Gilbert Koh aka Mr Wanghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01027678080233274309noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142556171047433742006-03-17T08:42:00.000+08:002006-03-17T08:42:00.000+08:00Ted: No, Blank Doll actually intends to move out o...Ted: No, Blank Doll actually intends to move out of the country after NS to France and never come back so he can pursue his own dreams which is not to enshrine the PAP unto perpetuity.<BR/><BR/>Jiang Wei: Does it matter which colonial power we're talking about as long as it is A colonial power we're talking about? What is more, you mention that Communist influence was on its wane, in the midst ofBlank Dollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04050686431488573237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142525193776685432006-03-17T00:06:00.000+08:002006-03-17T00:06:00.000+08:00There is little doubt Blankdoll is young. The imma...There is little doubt Blankdoll is young. The immaturity shows. I should know. I used to think like that. I used to think that JBJ is a horrible stain in an otherwise pristinely white parliament, and the patriotic thing to do was to kick him out by any means necessary. Afterall, Singapore is a small country with limited resources, and the clean and talented government should be free to do as singaporeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16740602176668303504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142523243811070472006-03-16T23:34:00.000+08:002006-03-16T23:34:00.000+08:00blank doll:I always think that people who cannot r...blank doll:<BR/><BR/>I always think that people who cannot refrain from using pointlessly bombastic words to try and make their point usually have nothing of substance to say.<BR/><BR/>And you prove me right.Hanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08356707792191803697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142523018721691342006-03-16T23:30:00.000+08:002006-03-16T23:30:00.000+08:00Well, TalkingCock.com didn't call her 'Pang Sai Si...Well, TalkingCock.com didn't call her '<A HREF="http://www.talkingcock.com/html/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=21" REL="nofollow">Pang Sai Siong</A>' for nothing... lol<BR/><BR/>http://www.talkingcock.com/html/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=21Hanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08356707792191803697noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142520076420104192006-03-16T22:41:00.000+08:002006-03-16T22:41:00.000+08:00to blank doll:Again, this is the sort of thing tha...to blank doll:<BR/><BR/>Again, this is the sort of thing that those who seek to manipulate history for a partisan agenda may say.<BR/><BR/>The communist insurgency had already largely lost momentum by the time the British began exploring options for self-government in Singapore. Further, granting Singapore independence helped drive the final nail into the coffin of the leftist movement by Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142511642523016332006-03-16T20:20:00.000+08:002006-03-16T20:20:00.000+08:00I highly doubt that blank doll is 17 years old...p...I highly doubt that blank doll is 17 years old...probably some ISD or youngpap agent masquarading as one..hur hur hur. <BR/><BR/>And so we see those who aspire to wear THE White uniform crawling out of the woodwork.<BR/><BR/>Just a point, what is a parliamentary culture of self critism? Does it really exist? I see rubber stamps abound...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142506539101336902006-03-16T18:55:00.000+08:002006-03-16T18:55:00.000+08:00to klimmer: Aw, I would hardly dare challenge Mr. ...to klimmer: Aw, I would hardly dare challenge Mr. Wang on his views and I am sure Mr. Wang wouldn't be shooting down a 17 year old. In fact, I appreciate Mr. Wang's writing and I admire his commentaries that are also backed with knowledge and insight. I am after all a thinking person even if I don't sound like one.<BR/><BR/>to Mr. Wang: Well firstly, concerning my point about vitriol. I was Blank Dollhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04050686431488573237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142494385539149402006-03-16T15:33:00.000+08:002006-03-16T15:33:00.000+08:00fwstallion, Haiya..you wont know until you try it,...fwstallion, <BR/><BR/>Haiya..you wont know until you try it, right? so in theory it may work for some but in practice it work fine for others. So who are we to say until tried and tested in the singapore society? <BR/><BR/>The major problem in singapore society is the fear of failure. singaporeans have become a bunch of weaklings...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142484726620361692006-03-16T12:52:00.000+08:002006-03-16T12:52:00.000+08:00If the internet generation is indeed a misled bunc...If the internet generation is indeed a misled bunch, perhaps TSS can make the local blogosphere a little less nauseating by starting her own blog, to offer constructive comments, instead of hiding behind a sterile newspaper column. No hill to climb here, just a little of her time. Surely her opinions represent as many as 75% of the voting Singaporeans, so readership shouldnt be a problem, right?singaporeanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16740602176668303504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142480136497329452006-03-16T11:35:00.000+08:002006-03-16T11:35:00.000+08:00"I guess this means our MP is supposed to represen..."<I>I guess this means our MP is supposed to represent us so it'd also be good for the people to know who their MP is instead of grumbling about their inability to air their views.</I>"<BR/><BR/>Blank Doll, what happens if the MPs who are supposed to represent us are not representative of us? I do believe that people "<I>grumbling about their inability to air their views</I>" should not be lbandithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02688854544479680412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12908820.post-1142477938326603752006-03-16T10:58:00.000+08:002006-03-16T10:58:00.000+08:00"game, set, match."No lah. Mr Wang is not here to ..."game, set, match."<BR/><BR/>No lah. Mr Wang is not here to win debates. He's having a <I>discussion</I> with Blank Doll.<BR/><BR/>-- mr wangAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com